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Transcript: INTERPOL Press Conference on MH370 
11 March 2014
Transcript by Tiara Shafiq

INTERPOL Secretary General Ronald K. Noble press conference at the INTERPOL General Secretariat headquarters in Lyon, France to update on enquiries in relation to missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH 370.

Noble: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, dear colleagues, welcome to Interpol’s General secretariat headquarters and thank you for being with us today.

In this opening remarks I’d like to take a moment to remind ourselves of why we are all here. Why INTERPOL staff and police in China, Malaysia, Vietnam and elsewhere have been working around the clock since last Friday sharing information and facilitating communication with countries’ police across Asia, Europe and beyond.

Just this morning I had the honour of hosting Alessando Pansa, the head of the Italian State Police. (points to person in audience) Please stand, stand.

Italy has played a vital role in making sure that when a passport is reported lost or stolen in Italy the data is entered in Interpol’s database, is for one reason – so the data can be screened before people cross borders and before people enter planes.

But most importantly we need to remind ourselves for whom we’re doing this, and for whom we will never stop even when the spotlight would have moved away from this case. In this case, simply put, we owe it to the 239 passengers of flight MH370, to their families, to their loved ones and their friends. To them I say that our priority will always be to put an end to the excruciating pain of uncertainty. As a matter of fact, this – and not terrorism, not stolen passports, not conspiracy theories – was our very first thought.

The moment INTERPOL learnt of the disappearance of flight MH370 we immediately offered our assistance in disaster victim identification efforts to the countries involved. That offer still stands and INTERPOL’s ready to honour that commitment the minute the fate of flight MH370 is ascertained.

In parallel we continue to work with our member countries to follow all available leads and examine all options - including terrorism, organized crime, illegal movement of people – whether in the form of human trafficking or smuggling.

We have information to share with you that hasn’t been publicly made available until now. (to someone at the back) Could we have the slide?

There have been images on the media about the two individuals believed to be the two individuals who were in possession of the stolen Italian passport and the stolen Austrian passport to board flight 370.

We have this photograph showing the two individuals who travelled using passports NOT that were stolen, NOT that were Italian, and NOT that were Austrian. This image is showing them using passports of Iranian nationality. The names are P-O-U-R-I first name Pouri, last name listed on the passport was N-O-U-R-M-O-H-A-M-M-A-D-I Pouri Nourmohammadi, date of birth 30 April 1995 – in the media there’s been reports of a 19-year-old. Again, what we know is it’s the Iranian passport information. HIS identity is something we’re going to ask the media and viewers around the world to help us confirm.

The second individual, who I’ve not read his name in the media, is named Delavar D-E-L-A-V-A-R and the last name is Syed Mohammadreza S-Y-E-D M-O-H-A-M-M-A-D-R-E-Z-A. Again S-Y-E-D M-O-H-A-M-M-A-D-R-E-Z-A. Again, Iranian passport, date of birth on the passport 21 September 1984.

Neither of these Iranian passports were reported stolen or were listed in INTERPOL’s databases. Therefore any airline, any border control agency, comparing these passport names and numbers against INTERPOL’s databases would not have had a hit.

We know that once these two individuals arrived in Kuala Lumpur on the 28th of February they boarded flight 370 using different identities – a stolen Austrian and a stolen Italian passport.

We are in the process of asking our member countries around the world to provide us with any additional information concerning the images, concerning the names on the passports, and the passport numbers. We’re cooperating with INTERPOL Malaysia, INTERPOL China, INTERPOL Iran and all of the member countries involved in this investigation.

There’s been great, great speculation ever since it was revealed that two passport holders were carrying passports that were reported lost or stolen. Great speculation on whether or not this was a terrorist attack or wasn’t a terrorist attack. And suddenly people seem to be concerned for the first time whether it’s good or bad to allow people to travel the world using stolen passports. People began to understand how dangerous it is to have people travel the world using stolen passports.

But already in the last 24 hours you see the story changing as the belief becomes more certain that these two individuals were probably not terrorists. The interest seems to be dying down because they might just be people who were being smuggled or trafficked.

And from INTERPOL’s perspective, the fear, the concern we should all have is that more than a billion times each year, there’s people that have either crossed people or boarded planes without having passports screened against INTERPOL’s database. From experience that goes back as far as February 26 1993 when the first WorldTradeCenter bombing occurred: we know that the terrorist who masterminded that bombing was carrying a stolen Iraqi passport across borders. We know that in Europe, with that assassination of a prime minister, committed by Milorad Ulemek, who had his passport stamped twenty-seven times without having it compared to INTERPOL’s databases. And we know that uh, the so-called White Widow also was in possession of a stolen passport, that she was able to cross borders using – without having it checked against INTERPOL’s databases.

So I close my introductory remarks by saying the, the focus of the world right now, and of law enforcement, of INTERPOL, should be on trying to find the plane – and hopefully find survivors, as difficult as that might be to believe that that might occur, and to helping to support investigations on the ground with regard to that. But also thinking about the next case or cases where dangerous people – not innocent people, dangerous people – could be crossing borders, with evil on their minds and hearts, to harm us all.

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Lots of articles about the fact that the two Iranian passengers flying on stolen passports seem to have matching bottom-halves…
No conspiracy here, no Photoshop here, just a really hasty print job.
Having watched the press conference live (I wasn’t there in person, though — but a colleague of mine was) I don’t believe Immigration Department or Malaysian police intended to release the photos immediately, they only did so after a journo challenged Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar into doing so, which may explain the poor inkjet printer job.
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Lots of articles about the fact that the two Iranian passengers flying on stolen passports seem to have matching bottom-halves…

No conspiracy here, no Photoshop here, just a really hasty print job.

Having watched the press conference live (I wasn’t there in person, though — but a colleague of mine was) I don’t believe Immigration Department or Malaysian police intended to release the photos immediately, they only did so after a journo challenged Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar into doing so, which may explain the poor inkjet printer job.

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There you go, as official as it gets: Ministry of Transport posts a clarification memo at the media centre. Balotelli remark not to mean suspect is black.
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Media Notification
11 March 2014
CLARIFICATION ON STOLEN PASSPORT HOLDERS’ APPEARANCES
We would like to clarify on the appearance of the users of the stolen passports that was discussed at the press conference yesterday evening.
In the press conference, Dato’ Azharuddin Abd Rahman confirmed that the earlier reports on the two stolen passport holders were Asian looking were not true. When asked to elaborate further, Dato’ Azharuddin pointed out that nationalities are not necessarily determined by one’s appearances and referred to an Italian footballer by the name of (Mario) Balotelli only as an example.
No ill-feelings were meant to the personality concerned.
We hope this clarifies the issue.
Members of the press are advised to email your questions to:V. Mano
Head of Crisis Communications Centre (CCC)
mano[at]mot[dot]gov[dot]my
(email address slightly edited for anti-spam purposes)
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There you go, as official as it gets: Ministry of Transport posts a clarification memo at the media centre. Balotelli remark not to mean suspect is black.

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Transcript by T:

Media Notification

11 March 2014

CLARIFICATION ON STOLEN PASSPORT HOLDERS’ APPEARANCES

We would like to clarify on the appearance of the users of the stolen passports that was discussed at the press conference yesterday evening.

In the press conference, Dato’ Azharuddin Abd Rahman confirmed that the earlier reports on the two stolen passport holders were Asian looking were not true. When asked to elaborate further, Dato’ Azharuddin pointed out that nationalities are not necessarily determined by one’s appearances and referred to an Italian footballer by the name of (Mario) Balotelli only as an example.

No ill-feelings were meant to the personality concerned.

We hope this clarifies the issue.

Members of the press are advised to email your questions to:
V. Mano
Head of Crisis Communications Centre (CCC)
mano[at]mot[dot]gov[dot]my

(email address slightly edited for anti-spam purposes)

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What the Director General of Civil Aviation actually said that fateful press conference yesterday (8pm, Day Three):

Azharuddin: “Do you know Bartoli… Bartoli…? The footballer?”
Floor reporter: “Sir, do you mean Balotelli?”
Azharuddin: “He is an Italian. Do you know how he looks like? Nationality… I don’t want to dwell about it. But they are not Asian-looking.”

The quote has been mangled by so much frankly irresponsible reporting that it’s important to provide some context to what the DGCA was saying. Azharuddin was using this as a bizarre, and poorly made, way to say “not all Italians are white”.

He did not mean to suggest that the passenger bearing the stolen passport of Luigi Maraldi is either Wimbledon tennis champion Marion Bartoli or AC Milan star Mario Balotelli.

During this exchange, a floor reporter asked, “Is he black?” and Azharuddin said, “Yes,” before backtracking on the answer.

What Azharuddin meant when he answered “yes” is that BALOTELLI is black, not the suspect!

Trying my hardest to find a video of the full press conference so you guys can see what I mean here. MH370 press conferences are stressful, packed and among journalists the situation is very competitive and emotionally charge, as they try to ask as many questions and get as many answers as they can. 

Until the Department of Civil Aviation releases the photofits of the suspects — which they have promised to do — we should not assume the suspect passengers aboard MH370 are black, white, yellow, purple, or green.

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Q:The reports say five ppl did not make the flight. The reports say two had stolen passports. Are those connected? In other words, were either of the two with bogus pssprts part of the five that did not go on the flight? How do we know that all of the bags were pulled?

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A lot of media and public noise has been made over the fact that five people missed the flight and their baggage was removed. Experts and more level-headed journalists are in agreement that this is perfectly normal.

Why would someone miss a flight if their baggage had been checked in already?

  • Spending too much time in Duty-Free shopping
  • A late bathroom break
  • Couldn’t find the departure gate
  • Had a late connecting flight on the same carrier where the baggage was forwarded on… (I myself missed a flight from Brisbane to Auckland last month due to a connecting flight from Singapore to Brisbane that arrived too short a time to get on the onward flight, where my luggage had been forwarded and then removed just before gate close.)

When a passenger misses a flight but has checked baggage, the airline pulls the baggage. This is standard procedure.

Don’t just take my word for it. A UK Daily Telegraph report, written by their Beijing correspondent Malcolm Moore who I’d consider one of the most reliable and insightful journalists working the MH370 story, quotes an unnamed aviation expert:

Mr Rahman also noted that five passengers who checked in to fly on the missing airline had not boarded the plane, despite checking in baggage.

He said Malaysia Airlines had removed the baggage once it learned they did not board the plane, in line with standard procedure. “This happens all the time,” said one aviation expert who asked not to be named. “People get lost in Duty-Free, or in the airport and they just don’t make their flight”.

And how do we know all their bags were removed? Malaysia Airlines, just like most every other airline out there, tags each bag to each passenger, and provides a claim slip for the passenger in case the bag doesn’t appear at the arriving airport carousel. They know which bags belong to which passengers.

Director General of Civil Aviation Datuk Azharuddin and MAS CEO Ahmad Jauhari made it clear during the 8pm Sunday (Day Two) press conference that luggage was pulled in accordance to regulations. >> Would link you but I don’t have any video links of full press conferences. I was there though.

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